12th Apr2012

Tekken Rage Grand Finals – Nin vs Lion Hart

by Rip

Updated 12:14am – April 13
We all know who Nin is, but who is this Lion Hart guy? Nin was there for two separate events. The video below is the first grand finals set from Tekken Rage. Nin went on to win in the final set to win that tournament. Separately there was the IGC (India Gaming Carnival) event which there is a TON of backlash against, with people not getting paid, 3 day event turning into 2 day event, people getting mugged etc etc. If anyone has videos of the final set of Tekken Rage or the grand finals from IGC feel free to post the link to them in the comments. jAy-Kei has posted on Nin’s behalf after the jump:


From jAy-Kei
“I’m posting this in behalf on Nin just to clarify things:

As Nin doesnt speak English (or at least not good enough to understand it), he told me he had trouble winning this tournament.

First of all on the tournament website ( http://www.wtf-igc.com/portfolio-view/tekken-6/ ) it says that the first 2 of the final group of 6 will be playing a last “final” set. This never happened due to lack of time or something. However Nin never understood that and that the group league would decide the winner. He hardly played as if the match was the final, and only aimed for the top 2 in the group.

Another thing that comes to mind is that the whole tournament was being played on only one monitor/TV which had lag also.

Last thing to mention is that players in the final group of 6 were dropping games against the winner of the tournament (aka forfeiting). According to Nin it was clearly obvious in his eyes, that people were losing on purpose.

Not to unjustify the victory of the Indian players, but this tournament was clearly not organized well.”

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35 comments
Abhishek Sharma
Abhishek Sharma

It's funny seeing people who didn't attend Rage or IGC properly making comments like "I was with Nin the whole time" and "These shits from Chandigarh manipulated the fixtures". How much can one lie in his life? Jeez.

Raion
Raion

Whatever happened to LUYG making episodes about tekken? Can we not get a Tekken tutorial for characters on TTTU2? And btw your android app doesn't work for phones with a landscape screen. >.>

Rip
Rip

Takes a lot of time, Namco doesn't assist us in doing it, we don't have TTT2U in America and Namco hasn't provided us with an early copy or anything of that sort.

Reality
Reality

Lol what a surprise the great Lion Heart is a Bob Player fraud. Within 10 seconds 2 failed wallcombos yeah he sure beats everyone in the world that guy.

k_j
k_j

Losing a puny little insignificant and poorly organized event shouldn't effect Nin's reputation at all. We all know how good Nin is, he doesn't need to win tourneys like IGC to prove that

Sahil
Sahil

Its a rather sad state of affairs regarding the tekken community, where in I speak as someone who has only joined the scene of late. For those who were present at tekken rage, I was one of the refs along with newton. I see rival clans developing and while this is usually good for the scene, in the case of india's tekken scene the rivalry, instead of adopting a healthy nature has descended into moronic name calling and ego massaging. I was fortunate enough to spend nins last day in the country with him and he was gracious enough to play me a few rounds and help me understand some of the things I was doing wrong. Once again I would request the community to put local grudges behind us and represent our country as a united force onto the global tekken scene. All things said and done, it was a truly humbling experience watching and playing against the best in the world and I hope that nins visit to india shall be remembered for all the right reasons instead of the wrong ones. I do not aim to sound preachy or self righteous in any way and wish luck to all the friends I made during rage from chandigarh, merut, vishakhapatnam, nagpur and everywhere else during rage. I couldnt stick around for igc since work beckoned and hope to see you guys again at the next br or tag2 gathering. Dorya!

paw
paw

lol you are really an idiot......or maybe you have some problem in understanding simple english....... the rule in super six format was that each player will play ONLY ONCE against other players in super six format and in the end the player with maximum points will be declared winner..... FJB IF YOU STILLL DONT GET IT KINDLY ASK FJB's DAD..............

SridharsVs
SridharsVs

@ Paw: Here are the rules of the T6 tourney held at IGC from IGCs website --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3.3.3 Finale (Super Six format) : Super Six Finals (6 teams, Winner and runner up from the daily pool) * Each day winners of the 1st and 2nd position will go on to compete with each other on day 3 of the event in the final showdown. * Super Six will pit players against each other; wherein each winning player will get 2 points for winning a match, 1 point each for a tie, 0 point for losing. Once all the players have faced each other, the top two scoring teams will have a finale match which will decide the winner and a runner up players. - Two players will compete against each other in a standard Tekken 6 Game in a 5 rounds format. The player to win the 3 out of 5 rounds is declared the winner and awarded 2 points. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It clearly states that the TOP TWO PLAYERS OF THE SUPER SIX POOL WOULD FACE EACH OTHER IN A "FINALE MATCH" TO DECIDE THE WINNER OF THE TOURNEY. The TOP TWO PLAYERS FROM THE POOLS WERE NIN-with 8points and LION HART with 10points. So, these two were supposed to face off each other again as per the tourney rules. BUT THIS NEVER REALLY HAPPENED and the results were announced purely on the SUPER SIX POOL points, declaring LION HART to be the WINNER. I guess this is exactly what Paw's grandfather was trying to communicate.....THERE WAS NO FINAL MATCH??

paw's grandfather
paw's grandfather

I am sure you are suffering from piles. Don't worry I know you can get it cured with Lion hart's dick.

FJB's Dad
FJB's Dad

@paw I am really sorry for being my son so rude to you or your friends so I apologize on his behalf, please don't take him seriously it is just that he has some mental problems since his childhood.(and this is also the reason for his bad English which also got him detained from his school) He can be a pain in the ass sometimes but I still love him inspite the fact that he is a dickhead.

paw
paw

@fjb - i guess u have explained every1 the real problem in ur last post , Lion Hart also faced the same problem which u faced while talking to nin , so blaming Lion Hart for mis-communication regarding rules is not fair.Lion Hart has rightly proved that he was india's best bet to beat nin and we are really proud of him for doing that, except for some indian tekken players due to personal rivalry. I hope every1 understands

FJB
FJB

I know u will regret ur words if explain u the rules.

Ninjamoose
Ninjamoose

I'd rather go to MK9 Texas Showdown. Their setup was in a bathroom.

Ninjamoose
Ninjamoose

I can tell by watching this that Nin wasn't trying. He did very little BDC, compared to what he typically does. He ran right into a wake up kick. Even his oki d+1's were whiffing. Also, the organizers of this tournament are just plain bad. Is there seriously someone's hat on the equipment table? Not a huge deal, but for the sake of professionalism, I certainly would've moved it. Especially seeing as there's a high probability that it will be recorded in some fashion.

FJB
FJB

These shits from "Chandigarh" also tried to manipulate "the fixtures". but me and some members of Team "Attitude Killers" did not let that happen. I wanna say thanks to those people who approached the organizers about this action. I will advise those noob organisers to study the tekken tournament format and rules before organizing tekken tournament. Anyway.............. I wanna say thanks to Nin for coming India.

paw
paw

Hey FJB earlier in the post you said you were with nin most of the time during IGC and then in the next post you say nin was given wrong information...... I wonder what could you had done to help nin with the information

FJB
FJB

As you already know paw there is a communication problem with Nin. His English spoken and understanding is really weak. So It was really difficult to explain the rules to him. And Lion Hart is the guy who sponsored Nin's flight tickets from Seoul(S.Korea) to Noida(India). Also Nin was with Lion Hart all the time so it was difficult to make a contact with him in front of Lion Hart and his fellows. I hope you understand.

FJB
FJB

And this Rage tournament was also completely fixed. the only different was that in Rage they did the same they did with Nin also with "Hell Raisers".

paw
paw

These monitors didnt have any lag AND moreover Lion Hart is just a player who was able to defeat nin both in casuals { when nin stayed at his place } and in igc.

David
David

I don't understand why a laggy monitor is of any significance given that every person in the tournament had to play on the exact same monitor? Shitty organization yes, but it affects all players, not just NIN. Also, not trying to be a dick, but are we really meant to feel sorry for him because he "didn't play as if it was the final match"? I don't care if it's Group 1 or the Grand Final match, why would you not just play the game to the best of your ability in either case? I understand that he was confused, or perhaps even given the wrong information, but it's a bit of a cop out to say that this doesn't count as a loss because he wasn't trying his hardest.

FJB
FJB

you are right David.......... he was given wrong information.

jAy-kEi
jAy-kEi

David, His mindset was not set like it was a grand-final. Is there something wrong with that? I don't remember all players trying like its their last match and going all-out in a round-robin format while you know you would advance to the finals. If you know Nin, he never goes all-out except when elimination is on the line. Nin told me Lion Hart is a good player (well basically he said he is good vs Steve). So Nin was obviously thinking how he should face him in the Grand Final (which never happened). That's what people do, think about a strategy. But Nin never got the chance to use it. Yes, shitty organization affects all players. That doesn't mean it effects all players equally.

SridharsVs
SridharsVs

Guys, this is NOT THE VIDEO FROM IGC FINALS held at DELHI... it was GRAND FINALS SET 1 at TEKKEN RAGE held a week before IGC.... Lion Hart was from the LOOSERS BRACKET and he won the FIRST SET. In the FINAL SET however, NIN won 3-2 against LION HART.... The monitors used at TEKKEN RAGE were 100% LAG FREE ASUS MONITORS.... I didnt attend IGC, so i have absolutely no clue on what happened there....

Oath
Oath

i dont count this against nin at all and no one should the ppl running the tournament were prob use to the lag so they knew how to play on it and knew it would throw someone like nin off i wanna throw a tournament but i have to get everything set before hand :)

Fjb
Fjb

Nin told me about that Kathy monitor after the tourney.

Fjb
Fjb

I feel sorry for nin too. But please do not consider all Indians like that asshole lion hart and his fellows. I was with nin most of the time during Igc it was a nice experience to play with someone like him.

L_Z_N
L_Z_N

I feel sorry for Nin. I've been to shitty tournaments, there were all local tournaments..... But if I were to travel abroad, and then have a shitty experience because the tournament was organized horribly...then I'd be bitter as well.

Fjb
Fjb

U r right rip I was also in the tourney. The organizers were noobs. And there were dynamic rules. I will support nin. This lion hart is really an asshole